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Rise of the Shadow King<\/a> was released by Mantic Games<\/a> a few years back but was recently discovered by Bill and I at this years AdeptiCon. We are both fans of Mantic and always stop by their booth. Both Bill and I have been relatively absent at this Con for a few years on account of both having young kids at home. What we hadn\u2019t seen in the past was the gem that is this glorious little game book.<\/p>\n

We both picked up a copy of Rise of the Shadow King and decided to do a play through. This is a traditional gamebook much like those of the past (think of the old Ian Livngstone<\/a> and Steve Jackson<\/a> adventure books). All you need is some scrap paper, a sharpened pencil, a few six sided dice, and off you go! This book takes place in the fantasy world of Mantica and sends you on an adventure to find the Shadow King and stop him from rising again.<\/span><\/p>\n

Here is our take on it:<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

The Legacy of the Gamebook Revived<\/span><\/h2>\n

\"Dungeon<\/p>\n

What was your first experience with a gamebook? Does this capture the essence of that a gamebook is? Elaborate on these points.<\/b><\/p>\n

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Bill:<\/b><\/span> This was not my first experience with a gamebook, but I must admit, it\u2019s been at least 15 years since I last read through a gamebook \/ choose your own adventure anything. \u00a0Growing up I read quite a few Lone Wolf books and fondly remember Flight From The Dark. \u00a0I remember reading through that book and not understanding the concept at first but once it clicked, I thought it was pretty fantastic.<\/span><\/p>\n

I would definitely say this book struck enough chords and piqued my nostalgia for this kind of book. \u00a0Having decisions to make, never sure if it\u2019s safe to search that abandoned hovel or even drinking some random potion you found hit all the right spots for me.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Richy:<\/b><\/span> My first experience when I was in grade school was with a more traditional choose your own adventure book. At some point my cousin passed me a gamebook that I could have sworn was a D&D book, but I honestly can\u2019t recall. Both my brother and I took a crack at it, but at that point I honestly had no idea what an RPG was beyond Final Fantasy on the NES. I didn\u2019t honestly begin collecting the Endless Quest series until roughly 2-3 years ago. <\/span><\/p>\n

Rise if the Shadow King\u00a0book hits all the points. It feels like the old books I\u2019ve been collecting from second hand stores, stays completely true to the feel and intent. Much like any other choose your own adventure, I was genuinely anxious when making a decision because I wanted to make it to the final battle. This is the first time I flipped through a book like this without keeping my finger marking the page I had just turned from!<\/span><\/p>\n

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The Guts of the Dungeon Saga Gamebook<\/span><\/h2>\n
\"Dungeon
Playing through with a three year old leads to a very interesting Character Sheet.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

What worked? What didn\u2019t work? This book heavily uses mechanics from the Kings of Wars ruleset, how did it play out here for you?<\/b><\/p>\n

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Bill:<\/b><\/span> Overall I thought the ruleset worked out pretty well but some of the structure of Rise of the Shadow King\u00a0seemed a little strange. \u00a0This may be memory clouding my vision of how these books used to be, but I had fully expected to die long before the end of the story line. \u00a0There was plenty of opportunity to perish, that\u2019s for sure, but maybe I was lucky and it didn\u2019t happen. \u00a0That said, I also instinctively chose some \u201cmost likely not going to kill me\u201d choices.<\/span><\/p>\n

I am really glad it used the mechanics from Kings of War, it gave it a sense of familiarity both in terms of world and ruleset. \u00a0The changes they made to adapt it to the book seemed to fit well. \u00a0One thing that didn\u2019t help was not spending all of my Gold Pieces in the market on the way out of town. \u00a0It was hard to know if I\u2019d get another opportunity and in my playthrough there was no other opportunity to buy an item. \u00a0This may have been unique to my playthrough of course, but in retrospect, I would have spent all of my gold.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Richy:<\/b><\/span> The story had a great mix of choices that kept you in the game and allowed you to recover as well as\u00a0traps that could quickly wreck your journey. Two moments that really stood out to me and really pulled me in: the\u00a0general store and rune puzzle in the middle of a dark and foggy marsh.<\/span><\/p>\n

The general store pulled me in as there were all manner of odd ball items to choose from. Knowing that all would have some purpose at some point, it was super engaging to know that I was making a series of choices that would change the way I interacted with the story all at once.<\/span><\/p>\n

The rune puzzle was simply fantastic. I did it, then paged around to see how it would have played out in various different ways. This\u00a0was executed beautifully in the writing. I really loved how scenarios like this are written out in such a way that you have MULTIPLE ways to solve,\u00a0it’s not\u00a0just a choice \u201cA\u201d or \u201cB\u201d. <\/span><\/p>\n

Being familiar with the Kings of War mechanics, the way they were utilized in this book felt super natural to me. I liked how the monsters could have modifiers such as \u201cvicious\u201d or \u201ccrushing strength\u201d. It really changed the dice rolls in a way where it wasn\u2019t just repetitious rolling of dice versus stats.<\/span><\/p>\n

I did of course hit a few points where I felt like I was grinding on dice rolls, but these were usually pivotal boss\/mini boss battles that felt tense anyway. It still worked even though it was a bit of rolling in some cases. I played this with my daughter.\u00a0There was tension in the fact that now my rolling became part of a narrative that I was sharing. We had many exciting\u00a0moments of finally landing a blow in a tense dice off with the enemy. She got in on some of the dice rolls, but for a 3 year old, she definitely began showing signs of dice rolling fatigue after an arduous battle. <\/span><\/p>\n

<\/h2>\n

Facing Off with the Shadow King<\/span><\/h2>\n

\"Dungeon<\/p>\n

What a dick! How was the final battle? Was the book too brutal?\u00a0<\/b>Final thoughts and summary!<\/b><\/p>\n

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Bill:<\/b><\/span> Prior to the Shadow King there was a Swamp Troll that almost did me in, taking two-thirds of my HP in a single fight. \u00a0The final battle for me was a close fight and came down to the final few rolls. \u00a0My final attack only needed to do one point of damage and I failed to do so. \u00a0The Shadow King swung and landed 3 damage on me. \u00a0It was a close fight to be sure, I used up all of the Fate Points I had in the process, but it proved to not be enough.<\/span><\/p>\n

Compared to other choose your own adventure books I remember reading, Rise of the Shadow King\u00a0wasn\u2019t as brutal as those books were. \u00a0I\u2019m sure on subsequent reads that may change, I may find those dead ends, but the impression I got was this book didn\u2019t have a lot of these. \u00a0I did enjoy this book and the opportunities it presented in terms of choice and was actually taken by surprise how quickly I found the Shadow King in his lair once I arrived. \u00a0There was no shortage of options in that area of the book. \u00a0I\u2019d recommend this book for sure to those who enjoy Kings of War, it was a fun time.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Richy:<\/b><\/span> The Shadow King was kind of a dick! I fortunately played the story right in such a way that I fought him with the lowest stats possible. (I paged through the book to see what scenarios I missed out on, and I chose wisely!) He wound up crushing me anyway. I had a point where I was about to enter the Shadow King\u2019s castle and there was this pristine bubbling stream. Either I could take the\u00a0choice to drink from it or pass. I was down on healing items and low on HP. An opportunity to heal RIGHT where and when I needed it was just too good to be true. Without cheating there was no way to know what\u00a0result drinking from the stream\u00a0could have made.\u00a0Guess I will find out on the next play through!<\/span><\/p>\n

I would love to see the logic map for Rise of the Shadow King. I\u2019m not rushing back into it. I\u2019m going to let the dust settle and try and forget a few details. I honestly feel like I could easily play it again and have the story play out very differently. <\/span><\/p>\n

The writing and story was engaging. Every choice left me on the edge. Very immersive book, very fun to play!\u00a0<\/span>I feel like I have connected with a way of gameplay from a\u00a0different era.<\/span>\u00a0A time\u00a0where storytelling computer games were not easily available at everyone\u2019s fingertips. Gamebooks really offered an amazing way to have a solo RPG adventure when you didn\u2019t have the means to assemble a group. Truly a player versus GM experience, absolutely loved it!<\/p>\n

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Thanks for reading! Share your gamebook memories in the comments below or on our Facebook page<\/a>!<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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